Just had a below 10 night here in Chicago and gas smell returned. Had the same exact issue when I took mine in. Exactly as you said. Judy. Just replace rubber line, or is there more involved? If you call SOA without fist going to a Subaru Dealer and having the condition diagnosed, there is no protocol, if you go to a Subaru Dealership and have it diagnosed, you are than advised its not covered under the 5 year 60k powertrain warranty because its out of warranty, you can always ask for some help but there is no guarantee they will help, especially if its not a typical issue, or caused by corrosion due to the elements, which I can only speculate because your post is a vague rant. I looked under the hood last night and saw dampness in only one place: down on the floor of the engine compartment (on the plastic weather cover) on the passenger side, around/under where the oil filter is. Make sure you use the proper rated fuel line for fuel injection and the proper type fuel line clamps. Once that happens, itll begin to let fuel vapor out and into the air. Heres a video on how to use a fuel pressure regulator with a pressure gauge, and heres one that uses a diagnostic scanner to actually look at whats going on in the engine. One of the first symptoms of a problem with the fuel pump is a loud whining sound. Running rough is a general term to describe myriad issues, including shaking, knocking or making unusual noises. The seal for either Fuel pump or secondary fuel level sending unit to the fuel tank may be leaking. There are 2 I have a 2000 Outback with very bad fuel smell during the winter. I missed the one up by the power steering pump. Consistent with other posts, they said they pull the back seat out and go down into the tank through an access panel. Lastly the fuel pump is housed in side of the Gas Tank. If you still don't see anything, remove I live in NJ and it is hard for me to get to him and try to fix the problem, he needs to drive the car to me, hopefully the weather will warm up and the leak will stop long enough for him to drive the car to me. I have been reading all these blogs and have tightened clamps and I lifted the access compartment in my 99 legacy outback and I see or smell no gas on top of the tank Is there anything else or tricky spots that could be leaky????? Ok, if you have spark, and it did not start and run for a few seconds as you sprayed starting fluid directly into the throttle body opening while someone else tried starting the engine, then you need to see if the air is sucking in or blowing out of the throttle body opening while cranking the engine. This is the second recall related to fuel pumps on Subaru vehicles. The dealer is an idiot. My 2004 Subaru Baja Turbo has had this problem for the past 3 winters. If I stick my nose under the truck, it smells along the rear side of the tank. Ive been breathing in noxious fumes for 3 winters now. https://reddit.com/r/hondainsight/comments/gwv18z/what_we_know_the_fuel_pump_recall_check_here/. Two days later when the freshener wore off, the smell was back. Kantor. Is Your Subaru Experiencing Fuel Pump Problems? But 2020 RDX is included in the larger recall. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); 2023 All Wheel Drive Auto LLC. After you go through all the prompts it will give you the option to dial 4 to reach a customer service agent responsible So this post is not about a huge or gross fuel leak, which is what it sounds like you had, which can occur on any car. A burning rubber smell is almost always, in fact, burning rubber. Eventually it can fill the entire intake up and leak everywhere. It is in the 40s now and the smell is gone. I'm guessing here but think this may depend on the quality of workmanship and the dealership. I don't think yours had that recall, but as I don't know WHY they wouldn't have techs trained and equipped to empty a gas tank routinely before starting a job like this. However, before any performance-related problems, an unusual sound might signal that the fuel pump is failing. Replacing those fuel lines is a bear! Let is sit for a little time. Since you mentioned it goes away when its off, I would suggest you are pulling in Exhaust from either the cars around you or possibly your car on mornings or even days when there is cold dense air, its just a fact of the internal combustion engine. Temp dropped in the 20s again. Because automakers issue recalls often, and for many older vehicles, we recommend checking back regularly. Do you know that on other methods of transportation the fuel lines are replaced on a schedule? It is now Sept. and I finally took it to my dealer. I think I had just over a quarter of a tank of gas WebFuel Pump Recall and Smell of Gas in the Interior I got my fuel pump recall in the mail earlier this week for my 2019 and took it to the closest Honda dealership to have it When I come to think of it, this has been going on for a few years now. We still dont recognize that sign in. Try again and get the same result. I have owned 13 subdues in my household sive 1996. Since then, I've driven with the windows partially open, parked in the garage with the windows open, and left the car when parked outdoors with the windows cracked. A total of 188,207 vehicles were affected by the fuel pump problems recall in the U.S. Another 13,744 of Subarus cars manufactured in 2019 were recalled in Canada, CarComplaints said. Maybe thats why I see so many cars on the side of the road. WebThe combined vehicle count for both recalls totals 157,388 and as of January 2018, some 29.5 percent had been repaired. Gas that leaks out can and will evaporate over time. So my question is does this mice chewing on the line sound for real? An old or worn fuel pump may produce a noticeably loud whine or howl while running. VERY disappointed in this treatment by Subaru. Ascent, Forester, Impreza, Outback, other vehicles are included. The cars recalled include Subaru Outback wagons manufactured between June 29, 2018 and Feb. 19, 2019. Clamps are still tight. Drivers who lodged the other eight complaints said their cars either lost power while they were driving them at low speeds or just after starting the cars. SEE, I think it's a 15 pin plug and two wires change on the plug fro 95 to. Your great write-ups (together with you-tube) help me keep my 2002 forester in good shape. Tech discussions, turbo & tuning and more. Is this normal or should I go back and start asking questions? Reading the posts looks like dealerships dont cover so guess we will take to our neighborhood mechanic. All email addresses you provide will be used just for sending this story. I was test driving the car after trying ti fix an exhaust system rattle and noticed a distinct fresh gas odor both inisde the car and outside as well. This will avoid clogging, reduce fuel flow, engine cutoffs and recall WQG-43 for corrosion. Subaru says it is unaware of any crashes or injuries related to this issue. Justin, this is a great thread. There are many fuel lines under hood the cost depends on which one and the labor rates in your area. Is this normal? As a result, you may avoid becoming stranded someplace with a faulty fuel pump by keeping an open ear. In case someone needs to see where the problem is, I posted couple photos here: https://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/gas-smell-inside-cabin-151908.html?p=4229774#post4229774. Subaru Recalls More Than 165,000 Cars and SUVs to Fix Stalling Engines - Consumer Reports Consumer Reports has the latest on a fuel pump recall involving Years, every time we take it in they cannot find anything, I have not put it together with the cold. It is presented If a Subaru has the fuel pump problems involved in the latest recall, chances are the driver of that vehicle will notice the engine running rough first. For its part, Subaru said it had no evidence the flaw has actually caused any accidents or driver injuries. With the recent cold (-12 today here in Colorado Springs), I noticed twice this week the STRONG fuel smell driving into work. After 12 days I brought it back to the dealer. Ill be keeping a close eye on this from now on, as this obviously could end up being a disaster. You had better have 6 hands to line all the fuel lines, intake bolts and all the other crap that gets in the way, up. for life. James H. Thank you very much for the info! The next day I smelled gas in the 2nd One of the best ways to determine if you have a fuel leak is to observe the fuel economy. Started the car and looked around saw fuel dripping from two hose on the passenger side of the compartment nearer to the front of the car. Terms and Conditions. You get a fuel smell for a bit when you change it. Sorry for the long preamble. Another quick point any time you buy a used Later model car, regardless of where or who you buy it from, YOU need to take theinitiativeto grab the VIN # and call your local dealership service department and have them run that VIN number to see if there are any open recalls. In extremely cold temperatures, a certain engine fuel line/hose may temporarily seep some fuel during initial cold engine start up. Looking at what you've said you're mods are, that shouldn't be the issue though. Really helpful information, minus 20 nights and strong fuel smell in 2003 Outback, thanks for the tips, Erica T. Very helpful info and advice. on Owner of 2017 Subaru Outback 3.6R. Next job is to replace a fuel hose that leaks when below 20F. Assuming I resolve the injector issue, what kind of replacement cost should I expect at a non-dealer mechanic? document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Top Class Actions is a Proud Member of the American Bar Association, Various Trademarks held by their respective owners. The Subaru fuel pump recall will see dealerships replacing the low-pressure fuel pumps once fuel pump recall notices are mailed September 13, 2021. C $34.56. Subaru Fuel Smell when Cold. That, in turn, can lead to a fuel leak and potentially a fire. There are 2 very typical, minor but very strong smelling fuel leaks we see lots andoftenthis time of year. Subaru and I am not sure we would all be better off in a GM with a faulty Ignition switch where people did die, even though the defect was acknowledged, or how about a Toyota with acceleration issues or the fact they couldnt keep a floor mat from killing people. Thanks for the input. First of all, theres nothing simple about this fix. I had found that if I only filled the tank 3/4 I did not get the odor. Not enough cars are affected For Subaru to issue a recall, and same goes for class action. Retrieve your username. I have a 2005 xt that smells like gas at around 20 degrees. Ya thats kind of a bear, you might consider taking the intake off and un-bolting the metal fuel lines from the intake manifold and also replace all rubber fuel lines under pressure to make it a more complete repair a one and done kind of a thing. August 3, 2021 In the third major recall of its year, Subaru has put out a call to repair more than 165,000 vehicles from its 2018-20 model-year lineup over a faulty fuel Bluish smoke is not good, is it also using oil? Top Class Actions is a legal news source Dealer looked at it a few years ago and tightened clamps and it sort of was fixed but seemed like it still was a problem. With only the intake, it Here are the most common things that would make your Tribeca smell like gas outside of a fuel leak itself, which is covered in the next sections. Got the smell of gas inside cabin after a refill (I didnt overfill, just standard filling). You say it only affects 2000-2004? Gas dries fast, which adds to the problem. I had the full blown check up done by the dealer in the fall other than new brakes, everything was fine. What a lousy design by Subaru, and to then let the consumer deal with the maintenance bills without notice. Im a technician working for Eurotech. Today when I entered the vehicle, I noticed a strong gasoline odor. There is a seal there that can go bad over time. Have you truly verified the fluid you are seeing is fuel? Theyve been a GREAT help. They may also contact Subaru customer service at 844-373-6614. Most fuel pumps will produce a quiet hum during their normal operation, however, an excessively loud whine coming from the fuel tank is usually a sign of a problem. Thanks for the postings. Subaru of America, Inc. (Subaru) is recalling certain 2019-2020 Ascent, 2018 Forester, 2018-2020 Impreza, Legacy, Outback, 2018-2019 BRZ, WRX, and Toyota 86 Okay I get it, paying for a repair on a 12 year old car is out of line. Despite my love for quirky, old European sedans like the Renault Medallion, it's my passion to help others find a safe, reliable car that still puts a smile on their faceeven if they're stuck in traffic. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. When I went to pick it up, there was a STRONG smell of car freshener in the vehicle! He said I can drive it with no worries because it is only seeping. The Second Model is the 2000 to 2004 Legacy and Outback, there are a couple of problem areas, but the most common is the fuel line at the front of theengineon the passenger side, behind the bracket that the power steering linesattachto, there is a 3 to 4 inch rubber fuel line that as the temperature outside drops the rubber line contracts away from the stainless steel clamp and you now have a fuel leak until the hose warms up and expands back into the clamp, you can carefully access the clamp and tighten the clamp, but I do suggestreplacingthefuelline as it is a better repair, we have learned the hard way that the lines that arere-clampedtypically leak again, as it was a sign of a bigger problem with the fuel line starting to becomecompromised, and we are not talking about a big repair, but we are talking about a fuel leak. If the fuel pressure regulator has gone bad, it can let too much fuel into the fuel rails. There is one slight exception though. And why do I only smell the odor when the tank is full? Fuel pump was once replaced under warranty. Here are the most common things that would make your Tribeca smell like gas outside of a fuel leak itself, which is covered I just posted a response/scenario/question on the head Gasket thread (I guess will be #1037), but then I found this thread which may be more related. Fuel then runs down side of tank onto the exhaust. At that time I also was having a problem with the remote start. Specifically, where the neck meets the tank. I personally feel better about an older car aging and having some issues, rather than a new car that leaves me without it or tries to kill me, feels much more like a design flaw over something that happens many years later, doesnt it? Also recalled are 20,182 of Subarus Legacy sedans manufactured between June 29, 2018 and Feb. 19, 2019. I have a 2004 forester xt. Gotta hold Honda accountable. If your Subaru Outback has a burning smell, there are many potential causes. I did have two fuel lines fixed back about 6 months ago and this may have been one of them. Solved by tightening clamps as I have done before. your claim status, claim form or questions about when payments are Any ideas as to where my leak might be coming from, or how I could find the right clamp to tighten? But first check around the fuel filter (next to the driver side strut tower), and then follow those lines to the intake manifold. If there is anything that youd like to add, please leave a comment below. I don't care whose fault it is. Oct 29, 2020 I had the recall done on my 2018 about a month ago and there was no gas smell. Another driver report filed later from outside the U.S. where the engine lost power while driving at highway speeds. I think someone on this forum mentioned a fuel pump seal not being seated correctly after their recall was performed. Why not list what was done? Smell came back. But I couldnt see a clamp or fuel line anywhere. Wife riding in car 2 weeks later was getting nauseous. Thanks!! I replaced mine with the Stainless Steel Hose Repair Clamp 1/4 x 5/8 (Home Depot_Plumbing aisle or check their website to see which ones). I got mine in the mail. Is there something the should be doing that they have not done as this is not a new issue. Did notice on the repair ticket that the fuel tank was emptied before the fuel pump replacement and then the fuel was replaced afterwards, seemed like a good idea with less chance of fuel spillage. Recently, I began working on a 2005 Subaru Forester XT with this same issue. I have a strong four door and bluish smoke coming from my 2011. I said, no thanks. Their answer was there is not protocol for this. They would not say anything else. Replacement fuel pumps should also be subject to the class action lawsuit! Gas Leak. Tech discussions, turbo & tuning and more. Thanks, Your email address will not be published. Save products you love, products you own and much more! It was lierally running out of the connection and laying on top of the hot manifold. When I filled it all the way, the odor came back. No smell for over two. Before a stall occurs, drivers may notice that the engine runs roughshaking or making unusually loud noisesor see the check engine light illuminated on the dashboard. Mechanic suspected gas tank leak at top of tank, but smell has since gone and no trace of leaks visible on tank. The original recall letter said 90 minutes. Very helpful info. Third try, same result. I have the service manual but cannot find a step by step on replacement. Shouldnt this be a recall problem? This is the second recall related to fuel pumps on Subaru vehicles. This was my first Subaru and probably my last. One way to know if you have a valid claim against the manufacturer of a defective product is to consult a qualified attorney. Another words if its a leak at the half way point the fuel can leak out until the level is below the leak. If the o-ring was pinched, the check engine light would come on real soon. Most likely its just going to need to have one or more fuel line clamps tightened up with that kind of mileage. I went to pick it up the following day and saw they had cracked the windows, but the smell is pretty strong and is lingering today still. 97 it's a, I have a 2007 h3 hummer base model. the fuel pump access is under your 2nd row right seat. Yes. 2019 Ascent Limited, 2015 WRX, 2022 OB Onyx. Passwords are 6-20 characters with at least one number and letter. According to CarComplaints, Subarus engineers determined the problem is a deformed impeller. The fix: Dealers will replace the low-pressure fuel pump free of charge. All others were dry. You must contact the Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://reddit.com/r/hondainsight/comments/gwv18z/what_we_know_the_fuel_pump_recall_check_here/. Had very strong gas smell in 2003 Forester last week in 15? thanks for all of your posts repair thoughts. On the other hand, slight leaking fuel at the engine or around a supply line would not. Ive taken it to my local shop and they couldnt diagnose. Ive been surfing the web and this Subaru fuel leak seems to be the norm. So, drivers of some of Subarus most popular models including the Ascent, Impreza, Legacy, and Outback should know the manufacturer issued a recall earlier this year over a flawed part that can lead to the cars stalling out unexpectedly. Or they pulled out the pump, went to lunch, and let the fuel smell marinate the interior. 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